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Old 06-28-2012, 08:06 AM   #1
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THURSDAY 28, JUNE 2012
Carnegie Lawsuit Battle Over - Larger War Rages On
1. THE CARNEGIE LAWSUIT IS FINALLY OVER
It has been almost three years since petitioners, California Sportfishing Protection Alliance (CSPA) and Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) filed an action against California State Parks alleging violations of state laws regarding water quality standards at Carnegie. The case has settled and a Judgment has been filed describing the terms of the settlement.

THE WATER BOARD WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN ARRIVING AT THE SETTLEMENT

First a little history... The appellate court ordered the CSPA and PEER to first work with the Water Board. After going before the Water Board CSPA and PEER filed an amended complaint naming California Regional Water Control Board Central Valley as a real party of interest along with the State Parks.
The State Parks had been working with the Water Board before the lawsuit was filed. They continued to work with the Water Board preparing the appropriate studies and then came up with a Storm Management Plan for Carnegie in order to receive a permit. A Clean Up and Abatement Order issued by the Water Board was then incorporated into the Storm Management Plan.

THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE SETTLEMENT
The parties negotiated a settlement based on the permit issued by the Water Board. The State Parks’ agreed to comply with the conditions of the permit and prepare a modified Storm Management Plan that includes procedures to ensure compliance with water quality standards for storm water discharges.

The State Parks are required to maintain the wet weather closure policy and to submit an annual report describing the activities performed and the effectiveness of the Storm Water Management Plan for each reporting period. They also agreed to pay CSPA and PEER’s attorney’s fees and costs of $65,000. This amount was about seven times less than what was originally demanded.

THE THREAT POSED BY THIS PARTICULAR LAWSUIT IS NOW OVER
It was agreed that after entry of judgment by the court that CSPA and PEER would file a dismissal of the case with prejudice which means that the case is totally and completely over and cannot be re-filed.
Now we can ride with the knowledge that we will be riding at Carnegie for a long time to come.

2. LARGER WAR RANGES ON - CALL TO ACTION!
Unfortunately, the attacks against our riding area will continue. The next battle is already here and needs your input. Please leave your comments here: carnegiegeneralplan.com

Comments must be submitted no later than 5:00 p.m. on July 11, 2012.
This is part of a process that will result in a new General Plan which will be used to guide future management and operation of Carnegie and provide guidance for future land use. The very future of our riding area is at stake and we urge you to let them know that Carnegie was purchased with OHV trust fund money (our money) for OHV use.

There are a lot of people who want expand nature preserves and cultural and archeological study areas at Carnegie at the expense of off road recreation because they say that motorcycle riding has an adverse impact on the environment.

We need to counter their influence. If you don't do anything else this year we urge you to submit your own personal comments. If you are a Carnegie rider your comments will have a huge impact.

Don't let this opportunity go to waste. Whether you want more trails for mini-bikes, more open riding areas, more singe track trails, ATV trails, or whatever please let the staff at Carnegie know of your needs. We need to let them know that riding in a responsible manner does not have an adverse impact on the environment. The Tesla/Alameda property should be immediately opened for off road recreation.

Please do not waste this opportunity to promote your values.
It is very important that you make comments. Please go to
carnegiegeneralplan.com and make your voice heard.
Thank you,
Carnegie Forever, Inc.

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Old 06-28-2012, 09:26 AM   #2
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I was just going to post this.

It's good news, but let's not rest on our laurels.

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It's good news, but let's not rest on our laurels.

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Note: state parks are paying PEER's etc legal fees of $65K.
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Note: state parks are paying PEER's etc legal fees of $65K.
Butch, the sad part is that this is by law. The greens basicly will sue the Parks or Foresty based on items like what happened with Carnagie. They will claim they are not following the full guidelines (This what they did)
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Filed an action against California State Parks alleging violations of state laws regarding water quality standards at Carnegie
and this entitles them for compensary moneys more than just court cost and attorney fees. So they have attornies who donate time and these asshats get millions to move to the next lawsuite

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http://www.epa.gov/compliance/ej/res...n_guide_ej.pdf
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